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	<title>Comments for Julie T. Chapman - ArtBlog</title>
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	<description>Musings on the Nature of Art from An Artist in Nature</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Larry jewett</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14718</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps i never realized that "scraping" was indicative of being in "good company" (artistically speaking, at least)

The few oil paintings I have done are really more "scrapings" than they are paintings (so I guess I'm in good company too!)

Though I must admit, I am willing to leave the good company for acrylic if it means I can paint over something immediately without all the scraping (and believe me, there was a lot of it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps i never realized that &#8220;scraping&#8221; was indicative of being in &#8220;good company&#8221; (artistically speaking, at least)</p>
<p>The few oil paintings I have done are really more &#8220;scrapings&#8221; than they are paintings (so I guess I&#8217;m in good company too!)</p>
<p>Though I must admit, I am willing to leave the good company for acrylic if it means I can paint over something immediately without all the scraping (and believe me, there was a lot of it).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Larry jewett</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14717</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14717</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;"he’s supposed to be pausing in midstride up the slope, but it just ain’t working.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nice painting.

...but (and forgive my asking) why is he headed &lt;b&gt;up&lt;/b&gt;hill (toward the summit?) in the dead of winter? 

Most elk that I know (and I have made acquaintance with quite a few over the years) head &lt;i&gt;down&lt;/i&gt;-hill (toward the valleys) when the snow flies.


Tell the truth: is it because he is being chased by an artist with a camera?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;he’s supposed to be pausing in midstride up the slope, but it just ain’t working.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice painting.</p>
<p>&#8230;but (and forgive my asking) why is he headed <b>up</b>hill (toward the summit?) in the dead of winter? </p>
<p>Most elk that I know (and I have made acquaintance with quite a few over the years) head <i>down</i>-hill (toward the valleys) when the snow flies.</p>
<p>Tell the truth: is it because he is being chased by an artist with a camera?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wildlife art magazine by Julie Kazabi</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/03/26/wildlife-art-magazine/#comment-14559</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Kazabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/03/26/wildlife-art-magazine/#comment-14559</guid>
		<description>Pretty thought-invoking post - raises some interesting points for debate. I just stumbled upon your blog this morning and wanted to say that I have really liked browsing some of the posts. Anyways, I'm subscribed to your feed and I hope to read more very soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty thought-invoking post - raises some interesting points for debate. I just stumbled upon your blog this morning and wanted to say that I have really liked browsing some of the posts. Anyways, I&#8217;m subscribed to your feed and I hope to read more very soon!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14528</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14528</guid>
		<description>Taking a photo is a good idea. I'll try that next time I need a new look at what I'm working on.

What I do have is a venerable full-length mirror propped on my old easel and I use it constantly to check the drawing and well, just about every element. Plus making sure when I designed the studio that I could get at least 15 feet back from the painting. 

There was a story that a sitter told about having her portrait done by Sargent. He would stand waaay back from the canvas and look back and forth between it and his subject. Then he would quickly stride forward, lay down a couple of strokes, turn and walk away again. Over and over and over and over and......

Wiping out hurts. Especially when it's the part you think you really nailed. It's like you have to kill the thing you love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a photo is a good idea. I&#8217;ll try that next time I need a new look at what I&#8217;m working on.</p>
<p>What I do have is a venerable full-length mirror propped on my old easel and I use it constantly to check the drawing and well, just about every element. Plus making sure when I designed the studio that I could get at least 15 feet back from the painting. </p>
<p>There was a story that a sitter told about having her portrait done by Sargent. He would stand waaay back from the canvas and look back and forth between it and his subject. Then he would quickly stride forward, lay down a couple of strokes, turn and walk away again. Over and over and over and over and&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Wiping out hurts. Especially when it&#8217;s the part you think you really nailed. It&#8217;s like you have to kill the thing you love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14523</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14523</guid>
		<description>Mary - LOL!!! sure do for me.

Susan: absolutely - scale really changes the difficulty and challenge of a piece. Sometimes a smaller work (less than, say, 14x18) allows me to get away with more suggestion (via loose brushwork, or color) than a larger piece. And while this painting is only 24x18, the elk in it is obviously more like 18" high than 8". It requires a lot of walking away from the piece to get it all in. That...or take photos of it - somehow scaling a piece down to the LCD on the back of my camera makes flaws really jump out at me.

Wiping out finished areas still hurts. Or maybe I'm just a wimp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary - LOL!!! sure do for me.</p>
<p>Susan: absolutely - scale really changes the difficulty and challenge of a piece. Sometimes a smaller work (less than, say, 14&#215;18) allows me to get away with more suggestion (via loose brushwork, or color) than a larger piece. And while this painting is only 24&#215;18, the elk in it is obviously more like 18&#8243; high than 8&#8243;. It requires a lot of walking away from the piece to get it all in. That&#8230;or take photos of it - somehow scaling a piece down to the LCD on the back of my camera makes flaws really jump out at me.</p>
<p>Wiping out finished areas still hurts. Or maybe I&#8217;m just a wimp.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Shrode</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14516</link>
		<dc:creator>Shrode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14516</guid>
		<description>Does the position of de feet make mai butt look big?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the position of de feet make mai butt look big?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14513</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14513</guid>
		<description>One of the things that I'm finding as I start to work bigger is that scale itself can change whether or not something works. What seemed fine on a sheet of 19x24" tracing paper can look very different once it's transferred to a, say, 36x48" canvas panel. It stalled me out on an argali painting for a few months until I did a couple of other larger ones and could see what had happened. Now I'm ready to tackle it again.

I think it's span of vision. It's easy to see "all" of an animal that is 8" long, but takes an adjustment, or has for me at least, to see all of one that is 18" long. Have you found that to be true, Julie? Anyone else?

You've also demonstrated how necessary it is to be willing to make corrections at any point in a painting, even when one thinks it's done. It's so easy to make mental excuses and try to pretend that it's all really ok. I used to do that and had to get over it to really move my work forward. Wiping out finished areas ended up not be an painful as I thought it would be. Mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that I&#8217;m finding as I start to work bigger is that scale itself can change whether or not something works. What seemed fine on a sheet of 19&#215;24&#8243; tracing paper can look very different once it&#8217;s transferred to a, say, 36&#215;48&#8243; canvas panel. It stalled me out on an argali painting for a few months until I did a couple of other larger ones and could see what had happened. Now I&#8217;m ready to tackle it again.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s span of vision. It&#8217;s easy to see &#8220;all&#8221; of an animal that is 8&#8243; long, but takes an adjustment, or has for me at least, to see all of one that is 18&#8243; long. Have you found that to be true, Julie? Anyone else?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve also demonstrated how necessary it is to be willing to make corrections at any point in a painting, even when one thinks it&#8217;s done. It&#8217;s so easy to make mental excuses and try to pretend that it&#8217;s all really ok. I used to do that and had to get over it to really move my work forward. Wiping out finished areas ended up not be an painful as I thought it would be. Mostly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14509</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14509</guid>
		<description>Angeline - good for you on working on all of that. Miles of canvas = a better painter.

Doug, thanks for the kind note. Actually, moving the one hind leg forward meant a number of minor corrections to BOTH hind legs in order to make the musculoskeletal structure 'correct' for that position. It really would have been enormously helpful to have a photo of an elk in that exact pose and viewing angle...but I didn't. As Bob Kuhn said, there's no such thing as too much reference material. I had 3-4 different elk photos and several different landscape photos to put this painting together. A freakin lotta WORK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angeline - good for you on working on all of that. Miles of canvas = a better painter.</p>
<p>Doug, thanks for the kind note. Actually, moving the one hind leg forward meant a number of minor corrections to BOTH hind legs in order to make the musculoskeletal structure &#8216;correct&#8217; for that position. It really would have been enormously helpful to have a photo of an elk in that exact pose and viewing angle&#8230;but I didn&#8217;t. As Bob Kuhn said, there&#8217;s no such thing as too much reference material. I had 3-4 different elk photos and several different landscape photos to put this painting together. A freakin lotta WORK.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Doug</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14497</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14497</guid>
		<description>Julie-

Great Job! Having that knowledge of anatomy really helps(as I have mentioned
before) you see where things are off and to make the necessary corrections.
Again great job!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie-</p>
<p>Great Job! Having that knowledge of anatomy really helps(as I have mentioned<br />
before) you see where things are off and to make the necessary corrections.<br />
Again great job!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Agony of &#8230; by Angeline-Marie</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14492</link>
		<dc:creator>Angeline-Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2010/03/07/the-agony-of/#comment-14492</guid>
		<description>Thank you for your thought process!
I am reminded of the 2008 Summer Workshop! What a great time! You said to eliminate as needed, adjust as needed, and paint, paint, paint. 

Still doing it, and trying to push values, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thought process!<br />
I am reminded of the 2008 Summer Workshop! What a great time! You said to eliminate as needed, adjust as needed, and paint, paint, paint. </p>
<p>Still doing it, and trying to push values, too!</p>
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