Comments on: Having Trouble Keeping Up… http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/ Musings on the Nature of Art from An Artist in Nature Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:05:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Julie Chapman http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11212 Julie Chapman Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:13:44 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11212 Joni, that would be pretty fun - bait a scammer and see how much info you can get and how far FBI could go with it! Hmm...worth a try. Maybe if enough of us did this we could start to make it not worth their while. Fun thought!! Joni, that would be pretty fun - bait a scammer and see how much info you can get and how far FBI could go with it! Hmm…worth a try. Maybe if enough of us did this we could start to make it not worth their while. Fun thought!!

]]> By: Kelly Singleton http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11176 Kelly Singleton Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:36:55 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11176 Me three...on getting the email from Peter Williams. Me three…on getting the email from Peter Williams.

]]> By: Joni Johnson-Godsy http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11155 Joni Johnson-Godsy Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:18:42 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11155 I did that once, baited a scammer and even got them to send me a check! (to my P.O. box)...couldn't believe it. I called the local FBI and talked to the head of it hear in Kansas City. Since Internet scams are so rampant and they cross international lines, of course there was really nothing that they could do. He did however ask me to send him the check. I knew from the beginning that nothing would come from it, but it was fun playing detective for a short while. Makes me glad I'm an artist and NOT a detective... :-) I did that once, baited a scammer and even got them to send me a check! (to my P.O. box)…couldn’t believe it. I called the local FBI and talked to the head of it hear in Kansas City. Since Internet scams are so rampant and they cross international lines, of course there was really nothing that they could do. He did however ask me to send him the check. I knew from the beginning that nothing would come from it, but it was fun playing detective for a short while. Makes me glad I’m an artist and NOT a detective… :-)

]]> By: Marti Millington http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11120 Marti Millington Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:28:08 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11120 Folks - I knew the email I received was a scam - i.e. email originated in the UK but wanted me to ship to UAE (DUH!). I wanted to respond to it just to see how far it would go. The paypal/verified account message that I sent to the "buyer" sent him crawling back under his rock. Folks - I knew the email I received was a scam - i.e. email originated in the UK but wanted me to ship to UAE (DUH!). I wanted to respond to it just to see how far it would go. The paypal/verified account message that I sent to the “buyer” sent him crawling back under his rock.

]]> By: Julie Chapman http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11084 Julie Chapman Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:29 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11084 Marti - oh yeah, total fail on that email. Marti - oh yeah, total fail on that email.

]]> By: Joni Johnson-Godsy http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11079 Joni Johnson-Godsy Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:36:49 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11079 Sorry Marti, I miss spelled your name. Bad spelling...must be a scam! Sorry Marti, I miss spelled your name. Bad spelling…must be a scam!

]]> By: Joni Johnson-Godsy http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11078 Joni Johnson-Godsy Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:35:52 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-11078 This email that Marit received is typical of one that I wouldn't respond to. It has scam written all over it and is not really worth a response. These people who do this must ocassionally be successful or they wouldn't bother artists. That once in a while success just keeps them trying. This email that Marit received is typical of one that I wouldn’t respond to. It has scam written all over it and is not really worth a response. These people who do this must ocassionally be successful or they wouldn’t bother artists. That once in a while success just keeps them trying.

]]> By: Susan Fox http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-10960 Susan Fox Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:14:20 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-10960 Got the same one this morning. Got the same one this morning.

]]> By: Marti Millington http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-10948 Marti Millington Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:35:12 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-10948 Heads up folks - another scammer on the prowl. I recently received this email from one Peter Williams. ----- Hello, I have visited your website and i am very impressed by the collections of artwork you have on display. I will like to buy this piece: "Attitude" I will like to know how much this cost and the shipping cost to this address 199 Khalifa Bin Shakhbut St Abu Dhabi, UAE and also if you accept mastercard as a method of payment. Kindly get back to me asap. Best Regards ------- I checked the email origin and it came from Leeds, England. I also checked my website and indeed, someone from Leeds visited my site and went to the trouble of visiting my contact page. Interestingly enough, he landed at my website by clicking through from the link on my AFC website. I have responded to this "buyer" with instructions as to cost and how to pay. I will drop dead if he actually does! Heads up folks - another scammer on the prowl. I recently received this email from one Peter Williams.
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Hello,
I have visited your website and i am very impressed by the collections of artwork you have on display. I will like to buy this piece:
“Attitude”
I will like to know how much this cost and the shipping cost to this address 199 Khalifa Bin Shakhbut St
Abu Dhabi, UAE and also if you accept mastercard as a method of payment.
Kindly get back to me asap.
Best Regards
——-
I checked the email origin and it came from Leeds, England. I also checked my website and indeed, someone from Leeds visited my site and went to the trouble of visiting my contact page. Interestingly enough, he landed at my website by clicking through from the link on my AFC website.

I have responded to this “buyer” with instructions as to cost and how to pay. I will drop dead if he actually does!

]]> By: Joni Johnson-Godsy http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-10667 Joni Johnson-Godsy Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:36:11 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2009/11/23/having-trouble-keeping-up/#comment-10667 Susan, The AFC website indexes extremely well on search engines. There is little doubt that this in one source of artists names for these scammers. I've gotten several different "styles" of scam emails. One style is very much like Julie describes above. The other however, is quite different. I don't list my prices on my website or anywhere else on the web. When an email arrives with a very enthusiastic and anxious buyer asking to buy my art without mentioning titles, and they never even ask for the price...?...not a good sign. A real buyer is VERY interested in the price. Some even ask about the frame a piece is in. They are warm and conversational. They ask questions about the piece they are interested in. It's just so different from the "formula" type emails that come in from the scammers. I did have one situation though that was confusing awhile back. A buyer from Canada inquired about a painting. At first I wasn't sure about it. But my husband (who is a master techy) checked out the email address. It was legit. This person did end up buying the painting. So it is not always completely cut and dry. But there are tendencies. Bad English is a starter. And a buyer who is wanting to buy your art in a hurry...not good either. Susan,

The AFC website indexes extremely well on search engines. There is little doubt that this in one source of artists names for these scammers.

I’ve gotten several different “styles” of scam emails. One style is very much like Julie describes above. The other however, is quite different. I don’t list my prices on my website or anywhere else on the web. When an email arrives with a very enthusiastic and anxious buyer asking to buy my art without mentioning titles, and they never even ask for the price…?…not a good sign. A real buyer is VERY interested in the price. Some even ask about the frame a piece is in. They are warm and conversational. They ask questions about the piece they are interested in. It’s just so different from the “formula” type emails that come in from the scammers.

I did have one situation though that was confusing awhile back. A buyer from Canada inquired about a painting. At first I wasn’t sure about it. But my husband (who is a master techy) checked out the email address. It was legit. This person did end up buying the painting. So it is not always completely cut and dry. But there are tendencies. Bad English is a starter. And a buyer who is wanting to buy your art in a hurry…not good either.

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