The latest on Mr. Gervais
Posted by: Julie Chapman in Cautionary tales, Reports, businessFolks - here’s the latest on this. I emailed Mr. Gervais (he’d sent me an email thanking me for my original blog post) with:
Dear Christopher,
You might want to check on the responses to my blog entry about your magazine – there are some people who do not feel they have been dealt with fairly.Since I’m a businessperson myself, I always like to make sure that I know how my clients and colleagues feel – and I like to do everything in my power to make things right, if there’s an issue.
Best regards,
Julie T. Chapman
This was his response:
Dear Julie:
I have not spoken to any of these people that have written on your blog. So the fact is not one has called and engaged in a conversation to me or my “Interns” since I have no intern. No such person called on Monday by the name of Lori Lemanski.
I will remind that you are legally responsible for any information that is posted on your website (as you are the owner) that is false. I have enough attorneys to consult on this matter. I will not permit false and misleading information to be spread about the magazine.
If your groupies want to be critical, do so to the former Wildlife Art that took everyone money when the ceased operations.
Western & Wildlife Art Magazine
The International Journal of Western, Wildlife Art & Conservation
Christopher J. Gervais, Editor & Publisher
Entries (RSS)
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 am
I think that the Sunshine Artist forum tells us everything we need to know. Gervais seems to have a long track record of “problems” with his art shows. I know this type. He will keep going until he is stopped because he has no boundaries, IMHO.
He’s canny, though. Called Lori a liar without ever saying the word.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
He apparently also uses the name “Troy Marsh”. The plot thickens.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:32 am
Whoops, meant “called Angie a liar”. Sorry, Lori.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
Wrong again. GOT to stop trying to multitask. It was Lori.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
The above has all the appearances of “legalese” and with that in mind, I would simply point out that, technically at least, “speaking to” and “contacting” are not necessarily the same thing.
Of course, none of us has any evidence for the veracity of Anjie Cook’s statement on that other post (”I actually contacted him 2 weeks prior…”), but I would have to say that it is at least possible that this refers to contact by email, for example.
It is also possible that Mr. Gervais has a secretary or other person who is NOT an intern who deals with correspondence. In fact, it is at least possible that Mr. Gervais is not personally aware of said contact (if I may be permitted to make use of said legalese myself).
Which, of course, would mean that BOTH Cook’s and Gervais’ statements are true (at least in a strictly legal sense)
One final observation: the confrontational tone of the above response from Mr Gervais strikes me as a bit odd. The only case where it might seem warranted (at least to me) is the case in which Anjie Cook (assuming that is her real name) had simply “made up” the part about being owed $300 and what earthly reason could she have for doing that and risking a legal suit?
None that I can see. But what do I know? I’m just one of “Julie’s Groupies” (TM).
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
“none of us has any evidence for the veracity of Anjie Cook’s statement on that other post”
I expect to very soon now since I have been in daily contact with her since this whole thing started.
“It is also possible that Mr. Gervais has a secretary or other person who is NOT an intern who deals with correspondence.”
Well, there may be something interesting cooking there, too.
Larry, click on the Sunshine Artist link that was in the comment thread on the previous post about this. I think it will give you a wider view of what might be going on.
AJG (a Julie Groupie)
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
To All……
All of my statements are true. I have every email that Mr. Gervais and I have made to each other. I have the copy of my check that was made to Wildlife Art Shows. I would like to share them on this forum, but I’m not sure what the privacy policies are for a situation like this. He has left me messages on my phone and I have left messages on his.
Yes, I am a real person you my view my website at…. http://www.equinepencilart.com and yes Mr. Gervais owes me $300.00.
I have spoken privately with Julie about this situation and I have decided to let this saga rest until I have heard back from the Attorney General of PA.
Sincerely,
ANGIE Cook
http://www.equinepencilart.com
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
To All……
All of my statements are true. I have every email that Mr. Gervais and I have made to each other. I have the copy of my check that was made to Wildlife Art Shows. I would like to share them on this forum, but I’m not sure what the privacy policies are for a situation like this. He has left me messages on my phone and I have left messages on his.
Yes, I am a real person you my view my website at http://www.equinepencilart.com and yes Mr. Gervais owes me $300.00.
I have spoken privately with Julie about this situation. I am going to let this saga rest until I have heard from the Attorney General of PA.
Sincerely,
ANGIE Cook
http://www.equinepencilart.com
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
LOL at the “AJG” and related terms! I found Mr. Gervais’ “groupie” comment bemusing, since many of the folks who post on my blog are not people I’ve ever met or personally know. Such is the power of the web.
I also found the tone of his email a bit odd; if someone let me know that there were folks who had done business with me and who were unhappy, I’d want to follow up with the unhappy parties and see where things went awry, and how to fix the situation…not threaten the bearer of the news with legal action.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Angie just tried to post a comment and couldn’t. She’s going to email you. Very odd.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
“I’d want to follow up with the unhappy parties and see where things went awry, and how to fix the situation…not threaten the bearer of the news with legal action.”
Exactly the reason it struck me as odd.
Susan: Sometimes it’s best to leave some of the “at least possibles” to the imagination.
Cheers
AJCWAG
A Julie Chapman Wildlife Art Groupie
I think I’m gonna start adding that below the signature on my paintings.
You know, to impress all my followers (I bet Julie now thinks she’s the only one with groupies)
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I wanna t-shirt!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Susan - I have a spam trapper on the blog, and oddly enough it thought Angie’s comment was spam (I’ve de-spammed it and it now appears). Akismet is a great plugin and has only given me a couple ‘false positives’ in the 18? months I’ve been doing this blog. LOL at the ‘t-shirt’ comment….
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Yes, I use Wordpress, too. Akismet seems pretty reliable. Haven’t had it catch anything “real” so far. Thanks for checking!
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
By the by, in an interesting coincidence, I got an hand-addressed envelope today from,would you believe, Wildlife Art Shows containing two black and white xeroxed pages of cheap copy paper (thinking about what SEWE sends out):
One for the Rocky Mountain (only one?) Western and Wildlife Art Show, to be held in October in Loveland, Colorado, Larimer County Fairgrounds. Featured artists: Robert Deurloo, sculptor and Joe Kronenberg, painter. $350 for a 10×10 booth 10×20 $650.
And the second for 2nd Annual Grand Teton Western Art and Wildlife Show, to be held in September at the Snow King Center, Jackson, Wyoming; featured artists, Brent Flory, painter and Peggy Detmers, sculptor; 10×10 booth $500 10×20 $950.
Make of this information what you will.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Anjie: I actually figured you were most likely a real person, but ya just never can tell from comments on a blog.
Susan:
I like the t-shirt idea
Maybe Julie could have a t-shirt design contest — on the “Julie’s Groupies” (TM) theme**, of course.
We can email suggested images and Julie can post them. I already have some ideas.
LJewett
AJCWAG
**(Thanks for the phrase, Christopher, though I would just caution that you can’t trademark it since you just said “your groupies”, which, being a common phrase is not trademarkable (if that’s a word) . As should be a clear to anyone who reads the above, it was was I who actually put “Julie’s” and “Groupies” together so it is I who can get the trademark on “Julie’s Groupies” if I so choose (and you better believe it, I will fight tooth and nail for it in court). And lest you think “Julie Groupie” is still open for tradmark, think again. Susan has dibs on that one (so there).
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
I would just like to make a comment. ANGIE COOK ( notice the spelling) is a real artist has been since she was a child…….She is also a real person who has feelings and does not rip people off.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
I posted a response to an earlier entry, but will post again here. Having worked in the legal profession for 44 years, his inate threats of legal action do not impress me. As I am sure many of you know, another promoter was sentenced to 51 months in jail, 3 years probation and restitution for doing exactly the same thing. I too have received empty promises of refunds that never come. He seems to think that by refusing the certified mail he can feign ignorance and hold me to the contract, which is obvious, because he listed my name on the Grand Teton show three days AFTER he was advised of the cancellation by certified mail and first class mail. What he doesn’t understand is that he does not have to accept it; the cancellation is effective upon my SENDING it. I too, have written, emailed, called and received no response to my requests and demands for refunds. I was to be in the Tucson show; and finally, after several requests for information, received an email that he didn’t have enough exhibitors and had to “postpone” the show. I am still “obligated” for Kansas City, but like all the shows since Jan 09, it too will be cancelled. He will then owe me $750.00.
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Just some clarification…I tried to call twice on Monday…just got voice mail, so I left no message. Hense, ‘no call on Monday form Lori Lemanski’. Mr. Gervais says he has no intern, huh? Well, the man that I talked to said he was an intern PLUS he said his name was ‘Troy’…could this be the Troy Marsh that others mentioned? Was it Mr. Gervais himself orginally that called me and harrassed me?? I mean, all I wanted was a subscription……and to be asked if i was ‘too good to use the internet’ was uncalled for, as was the threat of being sued. This is all nuts.
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
PS I am more than willing to take a poligraph test on the conversations I had with ‘Troy”.
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
“Oozing charm from every pore, he oiled his way across the floor.”
from My Fair Lady, I believe
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 am
I grew up in the 50’s when a man’s word and a handshake were all you needed to know you would get a fair deal. Today, sadly, integrity and moral values are too often replaced by greed and the desire to make a quick buck (at the expense of others). I take consolation in the fact that eventually, the greed will do them in, and those of us that maintain our integrity and values will ultimately end up the winners. It has always been that way….
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Lori - wow. What a bizarre encounter. And Angie and Martisiq, I’m sorry beyond words for your unhappy experiences. Yuck. I’m very thankful that all these things have been posted here - the internet brings sunshine to dark corners - and am hopeful that no other artist will have to suffer what you have. I wonder if there’s some way to round up everyone who’s been harmed and take group legal action?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The problems with this person running (or running into the ground) art festivals go back to at least 2006. Visit http://www.thelist.org. There are three scorching reviews from when he was operating under a different business name.
And, it appears that the, ahem, online only Western and Wildlife Art Magazine is the reincarnation of dear, departed Wildlife Art, which is why he would be in a position to mention “the former Wildlife Art that took everyone money when the ceased operations.” in the missive above.
What’s needed in an attorney who does class actions and who will work on contingency. Didn’t there used to be an attorney in Bozeman? who wrote a legal column for one of the art magazines. He specialized in art business issues. I think Todd Wilkenson knows him. If someone can track him down, he might provide a starting point.
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Ok, I’ve just gotten permission to post this as needed. It’s a message from the President of the Society of Animal Artists which was sent out by email to all the members today:
ATTENTION Fellow SAA Members!
It has recently been brought to my attention that there is an unscrupulous promoter who is targeting wildlife artists. Several of our members have complained about the lack of promotion for these shows, the failure of the promoter to provide refunds for their fees even when they cancelled months in advance, etc. Some of the artists have even said they have been threatened with legal action just because they were attempting to get refunds. So please BEWARE of promotions for shows you’ve never heard of, in locations which would probably not be great for sales even in the best of economic times. Don’t be afraid to check with your fellow artists to see if they are familiar with a promoter, or a specific show. And ask for references from artists IF you consider signing up for a show. Don’t accept just one or two references; ask for the entire list of artists who have previously participated in one of the promoter’s shows! Be very, very cautious! None of us can afford to pay large amounts for booth fees, and the costs of a hotel, etc., to participate in a show that isn’t going to be productive for us.
Some Red Flags:
· A large upfront payment required
· No written refund policy for cancellations
· Entry and booth fees, but no commission – The promoter has no “skin in the game” which could lead to little or no promotion.
· Promoter unwilling to provide names of artists who have shown at previous shows or data on sales and attendances of previous shows
· First time shows – Even though every show has to have a first time, check to see if the promoter has had successful shows elsewhere.
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Susan-
I think the mag. is Art of the West, published out of Minnesota,
Great Art mag! The last name of the attorney is Frazier. His story
or info of the month is always printed on the last page of the mag.
Doug
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Last year, I “signed on” by sending a check for his Jackson Hole show…then two weeks later, I ended up having to fly to VA to help my 93 year old mom. I wrote, called, etc Mr. Gervais, and he refused to return my money!!!
The friend who told me about him, sent to the show and said NO ONE KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING!!!! AND HARDLY any one made it to the building she and the other artists were set up in!!! SO, actually, I saved gas money!!!
HAD another friend talk 5 of her friends to go to his “show” in Tucson, same thing: NO CUSTOMERS!!!
Had another friend who went to his “show” in Oregon…same story!!!
THIS GUY IS NOT WORTH A POSTAGE STAMP!!!
AND, he threatened me with almost the exact same words that I read at the top of this blog!!! Let all artists beware of this IDIOT!!!
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Susan - is the attorney you’re thinking of Art Frazier? (can’t recall specifically if that’s his first name or not). He wrote for Art of the West, and also had the same columns published in the Montana “State of the Arts” newspaper.
BJ - thank you for sharing your experience. The more we have on here, the more artists will know what to watch out for (or the more chance this will show up on an internet search).
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Yes, I believe that’s the name. Do you know him?
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Susan for some reason your link to “thelist” is not working. I received an error?? How Strange?? I wonder if someone is making this happen?? I had problems with my facebook today too??? We are having problems post here on Julie’s blog.
BJ - I will also put you encounter in my notes. Thank You so much for sharing. I have been suggesting to “victims” to contact the Attorney General of PA. The more people that do, I think, the more they will listen.
April 4th, 2009 at 8:06 am
I think it is a strange coincidence that ‘Troy’ also told me that if I was going to complain, than to complain about Wildlife Art mag, almost in the same words as Mr. Gervais’ email to Julie. I am convinced now that the ‘intern’ that i talked to was actually Mr. Gervais. It worries me that, as a beginning artist, as to who to trust when it comes time for me to try to find shows to sell my work at.
I am still stunned at how big this has become!
April 4th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I posted in an earlier blog that his “greed” will be his undoing. It appears that things are now unraveling. He still has not removed my name from his list. I have checked the list of shows and not one of them is listed on the event calendar of the venue where they will take place. I note he has some very well known “headliners” - Lathams, Terry Isaac, Earl Kuhn, etc. Wonder if they are aware of his tactics. I have filed a complaint with the PA AG (Note - I am a senior citizen under PA law and you know how those complaints get attention!). The more people who complain, the more likely action will be taken. His contracts say you must cancel within 180 days (6 months) for a 100% refund or 150 days (5 months) for a 50% refund. Truth is - he does give refunds. He is living off the money he collects from these “booth fees”. There were pictures of him on the internet at a big art gala in New York City recently. Guess who paid for THAT! I would also note that David J. Wagner is on the magazine’s “Board of Advisors”. I live on social security and what I make at art shows - losing over a half a month’s social security to this guy has made things a tad difficult.
April 4th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Sorry - a sentence in my last post should have read : Truth is he does NOT give refunds.
April 4th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Martisiq-
Thank You for stepping up and filing with the AT of PA. I know of couple other people that have turned him in too. The more that complain the more they will pay attention!!
I have “IN WRITING” that he was going to issue me a 100% refund.
PS - I also seen those picture you where talking about. Interesting????
FOR ALL VICTIMS- PLEASE CONTACT THE ATTORNEY GERNERAL of PA. (The online form is easy to fill out)
April 4th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I only hope I am still around when they lead him to jail in handcuffs and leg irons!
April 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
The world is full of people at every turn who will suck the life out of us and they should be exposed and dealt with.
But what do we do when we start a painting with so much excitement and passion and then it turns into a struggle? Why does this happen over and over?
Let us role around in paint and “f” them.
April 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Wow, Suzanne! I thought I was the only one who did that - “. . .start a painting with so much excitement and passion and then it turns into a struggle”. Today has been a struggle. I know tomorrow will be better. Right now, I’m going to have some molten chocolate cake!
April 5th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I worked for a newspaper for 17 years and one day without warning I did not have a job. After that nothing that people do surprises me.
I sent my 2 year renewal to Wildlife Art magazine and a few days later I heard they were no more. When I tried to contact them to get my money I got no answer.
This guy you are talking about - how many names does he go by?
April 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
So far…. Christopher J. Gervais and Troy Marsh .
April 6th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Don’t know what happened with that link. Here it is again, copied and pasted from the url. Let me know if there’s a problem.
http://theslist.org/
I have reason to believe that Dr. Wagner and some of the artists mentioned above have been or will be informed about what is going on with Gervais.
Lori, I understand your concern about being a beginning artist and who to trust. I think you have a pool of people right here, for starters. Also, go check out the websites for the “real” shows- the Southeastern Wildlife Exposition, Natureworks, Reflections of Nature, etc. And then compare what they say, how they present the information on their shows and who is in them, to what Gervais has. The differences should be pretty obvious.
Gervais has apparently operated in the past as Southwest Florida Art Shows, Palmetto Art Shows and Gervais Fine Art and Craft Festivals.
April 6th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I contacted the U.S. Department of Justice to see if anything could be done through them. They are the ones who nailed Ken Roth (listed on the SList). He is now serving 51 months in jail - 3 years probation and over $750K in restitution. He ultimately plead guilty to mail fraud. I will let you know if I hear from them.
April 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I spoke with my state’s FBI.
This is what they told me to do if your are a victim…….
Report to Attorney Gerneral of PA
Contact your State’s Attorney General
File a complaint with Ripoff Reports http://www.ripoffreport.com/default.asp
File with Better Business Bureau http://www.bbb.org/us/
File a complaint with IC3 http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
And they suggested filing a report with Ardmore, PA local Police Dept.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Hello,
everyone, I have been following along and have had link problems with
sending my comments. Julie has passed along a few for me hope this time
it works.
I did mention to julie to also contact your U.S. Attorney in you respective
area about Gervis and see what they can also do. Hope this helps!
April 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Thanks Doug!! Julie did forward your email to me. I appreciate it.
Just wanted everyone to know that my post on Rip-off Reports is on there…Check it out.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/441/RipOff0441275.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com
At the bottom of the page your can respond to my “Rip-Off Report”. I think we should also start posting on that too.
Let’s get the information out there so no one else becomes a victim!!
April 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I just googled his name and, interestingly, came up with this (both have the same middle initial): http://www.nysocialdiary.com/node/241865
If it’s the same person, it might explain a lot. The “philanthropy” angle, the sense of entitlement, the quickness to take offense and threaten legal action, seeming contempt for anyone he doesn’t seem sufficiently “important”.
Just a thought.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
or Troy Marsh might be his real name and he has taken the name of Chris Gervis
and Chris Gervis doesn’t know someone is his name as an alias. For more years
than I care to remember I dealt with $^^&&*^% like this in another life. You would be shocked to know what they will do to make a buck!
April 7th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Check this one out - Facebook - but look at the “Celebrities/Public Figures” and see Rebecca Latham’s name. Appears to be our scoundrel. This photo also resembles a photo of aguy in a big Manhattan event in March 2007 or 2008 involving Nature Works.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-J-Gervais/782201508
April 8th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Yup, I found that one too last night. A Christopher James Gervais is also listed on a stock brokerage guide site as working for Edward James. I signed up to get the report, but it had no additional information like where he was registered, who his previous employers were, all of which I found interesting in its absence.
He seems to spend a fair amount of time co-chairing society charity bashes.
I’m downloading/bookmarking everything I find.
Googling his name was the first time I’ve ever tried to just see what I could find out about someone. Felt kinda weird, but it’s in a good cause. I only found one Christopher J. or James Gervais.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Martisiq
RE: facebook
If it’s the same person, it would appear that artists are not the only ones who have been “affected” by Mr. Gervais.
Susan: that makes sense to me, too. Those who have been brought up to believe they are “entitled” to stuff …well, think they are “entitled” to stuff.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Yes, the person in that facebook picture is the person who ran the show that I attended to check out for future reference. I always try to check out a show first, rather than just signing up for one blindly. He didn’t take kindly to my checking out his show and said I was trying to take money out of his pocket. That’s is how the ‘I know where your children go to school’ comment came up. That comment really rattled me and when I asked if he was making a threat, he tried to pass it off as no, he was just making a statement. There were plenty of people around, so that was enough to convince me I wasn’t dealing with someone I wanted to do business with. I never did report on the show to the online forum as I had promised. I had just planned to report # of exhibitors, type of exhibitors, attendance, etc…just the facts. After that encounter, would you have posted your findings?
Anyway, that’s him.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Excellent. Thank you for posting. It’s a sad commentary on what is happening with all of this that you feel the need to post anonymously.
“I know where your children go to school.” ? Whisky, Tango, Foxtrot. That is waaay over the line.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Like the Lady at the FBI told me people like that use intimidation and threats to scare people into not reporting them.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Sad to say that Mr. G has now worked his way into Canada, listing 3 shows there this year. 16 artists listed for Alberta. If he collected a minimum of $350 from each - $5600. When I spoke with him on the phone - waaaay back in 08, he was pleasant, informative, and admittedly, did like to toot his own horn. Given the comments, however, he seems to have been reduced to being nasty, evasive, and downright intimidating. Perhaps this is a sign his little scheme is beginning to unravel. If the authorities can’t/won’t take him down, we must do all we can to see that his scheme is made public so others don’t fall victim. I have posted a notice on the Artist’s Magazine forum about him and so far, over 20 NEW people who have read the post have been advised.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Martisiq-
Thank You for posting there too!! I was told by the FBI to also post with IC3.gov they are sponsered by the FBI and once you file a complaint they will send it to where it needs to go… FBI, Local Police, Attorney General, etc.
So I don’t know if you may want to include these places on the Artist’s Magazine Forum.
These are ALL the places the FBI told me to file…..
IC3.gov
Your local Attorney General
Better Business Bureau
Ripoff Reports
Attorney General of Pa
I hope this helps! I also noticed he is working his way up there too.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
To lighten up an otherwise depressing topic, I would just note that, due to the efforts of Angie, Susan, Lori, Martisiq, Julie (for the blog, of course) and others:
The G-men* may now be keeping an eye on Mr. G.
(*The FBI, Attorney(s) General and Generally anyone who might read this blog)
April 8th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
If any of you need a physical address for the purpose of service of summons or to provide to a law enforcement agency, please email me - cause I found the scoundrel - and I didn’t have to pay for it!
April 8th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Angie:
I have followed your lead and now filed with IC3.gov - I also gave them his physical address and residence phone number. I hope he is monitoring this blog! He has another aol email address: cjgervais@aol.com and it is associated with 18 domains. Would that be 18 other scams?
April 8th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
All:
It is good to see everyone looking out for each other! And helping track down
someone who has ripped off a fellow artist. Has anyone thought about how Gervis/Marsh is operating? It’s close to being a “Madoff” a kind of an art ponzy
scheme. Seriously, He does do a few shows but then cancels others and takes the
money. I am sure he has been doing this longer than most people know.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:30 am
WOW! Julie, thanks for the email. To all: thank you for the warnings!
I have not fallen prey to these Troy/Chris shows only because, THANK GOD, I have a day job. Without the time to invest in fairs and shows, I’ve passed on the FL shows [and I live a few hours drives from most of Troy/Chris’s shows].
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!
PS: Add “boot camp” to the t-shirt, and you have another sale. LOL
April 10th, 2009 at 11:37 am
I have just received information that an artist who was going to be a featured artist going to be pulling out of that show after finding out what is going on. Can’t say more than that, but apparently, they were offered free space and then, of course, would be used to pull in the less well known artists, who would then be cheated.
So, there are starting to be results from everyone’s efforts already. Good job! Keep spreading the word.
April 10th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Great information!!! Thanks Susan!!
April 10th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I’ve written to another of the “featured artists” who I met a show a few years ago and included the links to both posts here. I’ll be interested to see what, if anything, they have to say.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Susan - I know which “featured artist” you are talking about - I was the one who called to alert him of what was going on. We have had several discussions. And I think I rattled Mr. G’s cage. I just received a letter from him via email. It was very hostile. My name is now removed from his website - after I threatened a copyright/privacy law violation lawsuit and supposedly, I am going to get a refund (”in due course”). HA! He “expelled” me from one of his shows (Kansas City) which I was still under contract to do. He’s claiming a commission on a referral (which hasn’t yet panned out) but if I get ANY money from him, I think I will fall over in a dead faint!
After being in the dumps (and ready to throw out my brushes and go back to being a paralegal), I received glorious news today. I won’t use Julie’s blog to tout my accomplishment - but it made my day and made me realize that the sun also rises! I am truly blessed.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Oh yes - I forgot to mention - in Mr. G’s letter he calls me “hostile and irrational.”
April 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Well, if the person I wrote to passes it along to him, I suspect I’ll hear from him, too. I wonder if I’ll be “hostile and irrational” or if he’ll find some different adjectives. The suspense is (almost) killing me. ;p
April 10th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Martisiq-if you want to chat offline about any of this, feel free to punch through to my website and send me an email. Then we can say all the stuff that would get us sued ;-0
April 11th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Everyone who is keeping the commentary going - and sharing experiences here - deserves kudos, because your efforts are helping inform others. When I look at the back-office stats for my blog, I see that people are finding it after searching on Mr G and his shows, or Troy Marsh.
April 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Oh Julie that is such GREAT news!! Thank You for letting all of us use your blog to reach everyone!!
April 11th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Angie - have you received anything from him? I thought perhaps he was responding as a result of the PA AG complaints.
I checked his website today to check the link for the Grand Teton show which was supposed to be “live” yesterday. Page Not Found. All the names of exhibitors under that show have now been removed. The only active site is the one for the British Columbia show with Terry Isaac. Appears to be the ONE show out of all he has had “scheduled” that he may be “promoting”. Yet to be determined if any media ads are done and they actually get customers! Some of the links to images on his site are now becoming little red x’s.
The featured artist with whom I’ve had contact has not yet heard from Mr. G. Said he would call him again if he did not hear from him.
April 11th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Martisiq- No I haven’t heard from Mr. Gervais. He told me that if he gets paid from his people then I will get my refund and thats been 5 months ago.
I checked the BBB’s website and my complaint is showing, no response from him though. Also, when you do a Google search for his name and website (together) my Ripoff Reports claim is #1 and then Julies Blog and then his website!!!! As of this morning!
Well, off to go make pies for Easter and for my Birthday!!
April 12th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Hey, Julie, did you know that he is supposed to be doing a show in Missoula the first weekend in May?
“Working with both the Missoula Cultural Council and the Missoula Convention & Visitors Bureau…”
Maybe you ought to give them a jingle and let them know what’s up with him.
April 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Bless her heart, an artist I know who is listed for the British Columbia show who I sent an email heads up to today just wrote back saying that my message has been forwarded to some of the others and that they will investigate further. I extended an invitation to post here to all of them should they wish to do so. The word is spreading.
April 13th, 2009 at 8:34 am
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April 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Rumor has it that another “featured” artist has withdrawn participation from one of the shows…don’t know particulars.
May 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I wished I had found this blog about 6 months ago when I first had contact with C. Gervais. I represent Andrew Kiss and I am also his daughter. We signed up to do a show in Alberta, Canada and I will just say that things are not going well. With the information from this blog and other sources I was able to spread the word to artists in Alberta and British Columbia. I did quote a few posts I found here and also emails I have received from the organizations he claims to support. I think the most important thing is to make sure everyone is aware of what this man is doing and try our best to put a stop to it. Please contact me for further information as I apparently have a lawsuit being brought on by Mr. Gervais due to my contact with other artists. Thanks to everyone for information posted - without it there would be many artists attending a show in a high school gym or curling rink. Our artists deserve so much better than that!
May 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Rita and all the other artists who have been wronged - I am so sorry to hear of these situations, but I am thankful that you all have had the courage to post here and help spread the word. Being an artist can be a rather isolated and lonely proposition at times, which can make us a little more vulnerable…but the power of the web is a wonderful thing indeed.
May 9th, 2009 at 5:33 am
Wow, I can’t believe Christopher J. Gervais is still in action. He preys on artists! My negative experience with him goes back to 2007, here in PA. He cancelled a show at ZooAmerica in Hershey PA 11 days prior to the show. I was promised my $175 back … you know how the story goes… Emailing Mr. Gervais was futile; he threatened ME, saying I was falsifying information.
Thankfully, ZooAmerica honored the show for me and I had a solo two-day exhibition of my wildlife art. Mr. Gervais used that against me and refused a refund. I finally filed a report with my area’s BBB (Washington DC Metro area), and took it a step further and filed a complaint with the PA Attorney General’s Office. Lo and behold, a check for $175 was “donated” to ZooAmerica by him and the Zoo promptly refunded my money to me.
It was an awful experience. I can’t believe someone can be so unscrupulous and still continue to do “business”. I see he has branched out to the western USA and Canada. I’m finding several websites that he has set up. I’m sorry for everyone’s bad experiences but am also heartened that the word is getting out about this man’s business practices. I felt very vulnerable and shocked at how he treated me. I’m used to people being honest. Having a PO Box only address should have set off alarms for me, but since I’d read his ad in Wildlife Art Magazine, I truly thought he was on the up and up.
I would urge everyone to take the steps I did (BBB, State Atty General’s Office). As I said, he PREYS on artists.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I just have to add a few more comments. I have been in one of his shows and it was a lesson I’ll NEVER repeat! He’s a “SHAM” and he expects the artists to do the promotion. He’s had so called shows that never happened. This year he was selling sites for the 2nd show in Enumclaw. But he forgot to rent the space but he’s still selling spaces for the show. Which just happens to be at a different site and town that does not know that there is suppose to be a Wildlife Art Show at their site.
He’s still at it and going strong! I really have to wonder what some of these well known artists are allowing him to use their names for his shows. I do know that he’s had a photo of me and my work on his site, which he took at one of the shows and I’ve asked him to remove it. He did write me to tell me he has done this but that I had given him the rights to show it [which I had not]. And that he is very sorry I’m displeased with his show. But I checked his site and I’m still there, so what can I say.
I’ve had several calls from Florida, Arizona, Washigton, Canada and many e-mails about him and I tell the artists who call to stay away from him and if they have sent their funds they will not get them back. Plus please “call the exibit site” to see if there is anything going on and that he has a habit of cancelling 2 weeks before the show is to happen.
Good Luck to us all!
May 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Hi again all.
Just wanted to let you know that the show in Red Deer this past weekend was a complete waste of time. We did not attend so I cannot give exact details. Six artists did show up and approx. 10 customers. I hope artists for the upcoming Vancouver show are aware of what they are getting themselves into.
A simple solution to stop this from happening is to warn as many artists so they don’t send him money in the first place. No artists.. no shows.
If anyone needs help in getting their images removed from his website please email me for information. I was able to have a page with Andrew’s image suspended. A big thank you to all the supporters that have either emailed or called me!
May 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Perhaps the Alberta/Red Deer artists have friends who are signed up for the Vancouver show and will give them the heads up. He is notorious for not advertising his shows (believing it is the artists responsibility). He shirt-tails on other major events (i.e. Grand Teton show during Jackson Hole Fall Arts Festival) but his “venue” is far removed from the events in town - and he will not advertise. On Dec. 15 I sent him this message about the Jan 09 Tucson show: “Is there any info available yet on the January show in Tucson AZ? I note the 37th Annual Tucson Indian Arts and Crafts Show is the same weekend at the Convention Center. Are we a part of that show?” His response was: “I am still trying to recruit additional artists for the show. Participation has been light due to the slow economy. The Indian Art Show has been running for a long time and is a separate event. It is my hope to attract buyers from their show to ours.”
This is how he operates. After repeated attempts to get more info, he FINALLY emailed me on Dec 28 (two weeks before the show) to say the show was canceled and promised a refund - which I have yet to receive. He “expelled” me from his Kansas City Show for being “hostile and irrational” (because I demanded specific information about the show - i.e. advertising, #artists attending, set-up, etc). I withdrew from Grand Teton because of what I learned about him and his shows. He now owes me $750. And I filed a complaint with the PA Attorney General and several other agencies. I post this information here so that others might be made aware of his unethical business practices.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Well I wish I knew about this ordeal a few months ago as I also signed up for the Grand Teton Art show. I emailed Mr. G and asked him (right after he cashed my check) how come the show is not listed on the Fall Arts Festival website, adds and brochures nor is it listed as an event at the Snow King resort? He said that we would be listed in the program book and that it is too early with our small sponsership to be listed on their sites. Last week I found out about this nightmare of Wildlife Art Shows and contacted the Snow King Resort to see what I could find out. They said that Mr. Gervais reservations had been cancelled due to non-payment by the deadline. The artists listed earlier last week dropped from 16 to 9 overnight and I emailed Mr. G and stated these issues and requested a refund for a show that is disolving very quickly and should be cancelled. No response as of today. Can you please have Martisiq contact me?
August 13th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Short version….
Last year I signed up for Santa Fe & Jackson Hole Western & Wildlife Art Shows with Mr. Gervais. These where the first shows I ever tried to participate in.
The Santa Fe show did not happen and I was promised a refund. I did attend the show in Jackson but it was falsely and inadequately promoted. At the end of the show I asked for my refund for the Santa Fe show, but he didn’t have his checkbook and would send it to me in the mail.
I’ve emailed and called many, many times. When he did answer the phone he pretended to be Mr. Gervais’s assistant.
I know I will never get a refund and I’ve learned my lesson.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Shane and all - sigh. I’m so sorry to read these stories. I’m very glad that Todd Wilkinson published his article about Gervais in his online Wildlife Art Journal. Let’s all continue to spread the word and make sure other artists know that they should ALWAYS ask for references and talk to other artists about their experiences when it comes to shows.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
All,
RE: Christopher J. Gervais
I have followed your posts very thoroughly after a recent encounter with Mr. Gervais through my non-profit organization, the American Cetacean Society. My experience, and his reaction, have been virtually identical. Interesting reaction… but ineffective. “Google” is a wonderful thing; you can learn much about people. Thank you for your frank discussion and narrative regarding your experiences with this individual. We will do well to remain vigilent.
Cheryl
February 19th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
I found this website after doing a Google search for Gervais. I was contacted this morning by the PA District Attorney’s Office regarding a complaint I filed back in 2006 against Gervais. So I decided to see if he was still in business, when I was dealing with him it was Gervais Art Festivals. I paid $175 for booth space at a fair here in No. California, it was a first time show so I was tentative but needed some income. Sent in the app and check, red flag should have been there was very little info on the app about details of the show, i.e., location, set up, times, etc. I heard nothing from him or his staff by email, mail or phone. 2 weeks before the show I emailed for details about set up, booth space and a reply came back that the show had been cancelled. Long and short of it, I repeatedly called and emailed asking when my refund would be coming and heard nothing. 3 months later I finally demanded a reply and said I would take this to my attorney if I didn’t hear. Well that got them going and a lady in his office emailed back and said I would get it when they could afford it, and if I didn’t like that it was too bad. She also stated it’s artists like me that don’t have a clue about how things work in the world that make her job so difficult. She lied and said her staff had contacted me several times by phone (NEVER!) and called me a liar. Next I emailed Gervais directly to let him know his staff needed some serious customer service training and when would I get my refund back. His response was way over the top rude, arrogant, he called me names and said I was a liar, said he was teaching me a lesson on being patient. I filed a complaint with the PA BBB, noting that there were several other complaints at the time. I then filed a complaint with the PA Attorney General’s Office. Gervais did not respond to their letters. I wrote a Letter to the Editor to the local PA newspaper warning people not to deal with this company. I considered the case closed until I got the call this morning from the AG’s Office, maybe enough people have filed complaints against Gervais that they are going to go after him! Thanks for this Blog, great way to get the word out.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 pm
As always - I am incredibly sorry to hear of others’ bad experiences with him, but glad that at least there is this resource of information. Jan P, thank you for your courage in posting your story. I hope it will help others.
March 19th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
I was just in contact with Mr. Gervais just a few days ago. He is currently promoting a conservation and wildlife film festival of his own making. You can find the site here: http://conservationwildlifefilmfestival.com/. I am extremely grateful for the dialogue here in this blog, as it has given me a degree of caution that I may have previously lacked.
Jeremy Roberts
Conservation Media
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Jeremy - wow. I’m glad you found this site. Please feel free to come back and leave comments as you learn more about this new event. Interestingly, I don’t see Mr Gervais’ name anywhere on that website. Plenty of spelling errors, though.
Also, Missoula (where I live) is home to the International Wildlife Film Festival, an annual event that attracts plenty of talented filmmakers and new films. I wonder why someone would start this new effort without leveraging/connecting with the Missoula event.
April 16th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Jeremy, I also am so glad you found this site. I checked out the website you provided and omg, I feel for anyone that gets involved with this man. To all the artists above…I followed up with the PA Attorney G’s office today regarding my complaint on Mr. Gervais - Great conversation, things are moving along…however, if there are artists out there that have not filed with the PA Attorney General and had issues with Christopher Gervais…I highly recommend you FILE A COMPLAINT as soon as possible! The more the complaints the better! http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.
April 16th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
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