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	<description>Musings on the Nature of Art from An Artist in Nature</description>
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		<title>By: mobile search</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-126569</link>
		<dc:creator>mobile search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your blog.. very nice colors &#38; theme. Did you make this website yourself or did you hire someone to do it for you? Plz reply as I'm looking to create my own blog and would like to find out where u got this from. cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your blog.. very nice colors &amp; theme. Did you make this website yourself or did you hire someone to do it for you? Plz reply as I&#8217;m looking to create my own blog and would like to find out where u got this from. cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Dubsbuiff</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-122380</link>
		<dc:creator>Dubsbuiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,              
              
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The problem I am fighting with is a broken pipe beneath the kitchen sink.              
              
What is your opinion about those dudes?               
               
Take care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,              </p>
<p>I have been hunting for a handyman in Poland (I have been living and working in this region for three years now) and was wondering if u can suggest something. A while back I came across a firm called Hydraulik-Lodz.pl that is located where I stay - in Lodz. Have you heard of them? You will be able to take a look at their web page here: [url=http://uslugi-hydrauliczne-lodz.pl/]ogrzewanie podlogowe lodz[/url]              </p>
<p>The problem I am fighting with is a broken pipe beneath the kitchen sink.              </p>
<p>What is your opinion about those dudes?               </p>
<p>Take care</p>
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		<title>By: nansyeartho</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-43847</link>
		<dc:creator>nansyeartho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 06:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1424</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1424</guid>
		<description>Kelly, my apologies for the gender assumption! sheesh. You'd think I'd know better.

Anyway - I'll heartily agree with your statement about doing what is best for you and your career...and yes, that might be different from what someone else does. I also find it interesting and enlightening to hear that you have talked with artists who do repeat themselves, yet feel they are painting for themselves (not necessarily just for sales).

Again, it's a good reminder to me of my own assumptions. I get bored very easily, so restlessness in subject and style is part of my journey - but certainly not necessarily everyone's...I have to remember not everyone has such a low boredom threshold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly, my apologies for the gender assumption! sheesh. You&#8217;d think I&#8217;d know better.</p>
<p>Anyway - I&#8217;ll heartily agree with your statement about doing what is best for you and your career&#8230;and yes, that might be different from what someone else does. I also find it interesting and enlightening to hear that you have talked with artists who do repeat themselves, yet feel they are painting for themselves (not necessarily just for sales).</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s a good reminder to me of my own assumptions. I get bored very easily, so restlessness in subject and style is part of my journey - but certainly not necessarily everyone&#8217;s&#8230;I have to remember not everyone has such a low boredom threshold.</p>
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		<title>By: The Scratch Board &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Buts in Art</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1422</link>
		<dc:creator>The Scratch Board &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Buts in Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1422</guid>
		<description>[...] blogs and came across a very interesting discussion on Julie. T. Chapman&#8217;s blog: &#8220;Painting for Sale vs Self&#8220;. Julie encouraged her readers to think about the differences (if any) of painting for sale [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] blogs and came across a very interesting discussion on Julie. T. Chapman&#8217;s blog: &#8220;Painting for Sale vs Self&#8220;. Julie encouraged her readers to think about the differences (if any) of painting for sale [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Dangerfield</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1421</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Dangerfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1421</guid>
		<description>Just to clarify, I'm a "him" not a "her".  No offense taken, as it happens quite frequently.  I guess I can blame my parents for that!

As I read other’s comments, I'm really starting to think there's not a right or wrong answer.  It totally depends on each artist’s individual situation.  I guess my previous comments came mostly from hearing what other artists have mentioned about this topic.  I'm still early in my career and my thought process may change over time.  

There are plenty of artists, like Richard Schmid, that have very successful careers and aren't tied to a specific subject matter.  They are passionate about painting, and it doesn't really matter what they’re painting.  There are also many artists who have stuck to a specific subject matter (like Carl Rungius with wildlife), probably because they are as passionate about the subject as they are about painting, but their work has still grown and changed over time.  

If an artist’s work remains similar from year to year, are we to assume they are no longer painting for themselves?  Who’s to say they haven't found what fulfills their personal needs and are just continuing to do that?  Is constant growth and change required for self-fulfillment?  I mention this because I know artists that have been accused of painting the same subjects in the same style repeatedly just for sales.  But, having discussed their work thoroughly with them, I know they are very much painting for themselves.

I'm going to do what I feel is best for me and my career, but that could be very different from what someone else does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, I&#8217;m a &#8220;him&#8221; not a &#8220;her&#8221;.  No offense taken, as it happens quite frequently.  I guess I can blame my parents for that!</p>
<p>As I read other’s comments, I&#8217;m really starting to think there&#8217;s not a right or wrong answer.  It totally depends on each artist’s individual situation.  I guess my previous comments came mostly from hearing what other artists have mentioned about this topic.  I&#8217;m still early in my career and my thought process may change over time.  </p>
<p>There are plenty of artists, like Richard Schmid, that have very successful careers and aren&#8217;t tied to a specific subject matter.  They are passionate about painting, and it doesn&#8217;t really matter what they’re painting.  There are also many artists who have stuck to a specific subject matter (like Carl Rungius with wildlife), probably because they are as passionate about the subject as they are about painting, but their work has still grown and changed over time.  </p>
<p>If an artist’s work remains similar from year to year, are we to assume they are no longer painting for themselves?  Who’s to say they haven&#8217;t found what fulfills their personal needs and are just continuing to do that?  Is constant growth and change required for self-fulfillment?  I mention this because I know artists that have been accused of painting the same subjects in the same style repeatedly just for sales.  But, having discussed their work thoroughly with them, I know they are very much painting for themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to do what I feel is best for me and my career, but that could be very different from what someone else does.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1419</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1419</guid>
		<description>For a stunning example of artistic "inconsistency", I think Andrew Denman sets the standard. I have found him to be such an inspiration to keep me moving forward with whatever my vision is for a particular painting and the heck with stylistic consistency. 

How in the world did we ever get to the point where people who aren't "us" somehow get to dictate what we do and how we do it? If they know so darn much, they can bloody well pick up a brush and have at it. I know, but what do I really think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a stunning example of artistic &#8220;inconsistency&#8221;, I think Andrew Denman sets the standard. I have found him to be such an inspiration to keep me moving forward with whatever my vision is for a particular painting and the heck with stylistic consistency. </p>
<p>How in the world did we ever get to the point where people who aren&#8217;t &#8220;us&#8221; somehow get to dictate what we do and how we do it? If they know so darn much, they can bloody well pick up a brush and have at it. I know, but what do I really think.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1418</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why there ever came to be a stigma associated with the business of art - as if artists shouldn't be like other business-people and want to make a living at what they do. Why is there anything wrong with wanting to be gloriously successful at both making and selling art?

Anyway...

Something Kelly said in her comment above struck me: about artists having perhaps a bit of an obligation to their collectors, later in their careers, to remain consistent. I don't think I agree with that. It's my personal duty to do my best to continue growing in my vision and how I express that. Take Picasso: his early paintings were very realist, then he birthed Cubism, then even later he messed about with drawings and sculpture that were definitely not Cubist. (NOT to say that I can compare myself to Picasso!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why there ever came to be a stigma associated with the business of art - as if artists shouldn&#8217;t be like other business-people and want to make a living at what they do. Why is there anything wrong with wanting to be gloriously successful at both making and selling art?</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>Something Kelly said in her comment above struck me: about artists having perhaps a bit of an obligation to their collectors, later in their careers, to remain consistent. I don&#8217;t think I agree with that. It&#8217;s my personal duty to do my best to continue growing in my vision and how I express that. Take Picasso: his early paintings were very realist, then he birthed Cubism, then even later he messed about with drawings and sculpture that were definitely not Cubist. (NOT to say that I can compare myself to Picasso!).</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1415</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate dealing in either/or. Let's face it. Most of us have far more ideas for paintings than we'll ever have time to paint. So I try to strike a balance. Sometimes, all other things being equal, I'll pick a subject that I know there is more of a market for and, other times, I just do what I feel driven to do.

In the end, buyers sense which ones were painted for the market and which ones were painted from the heart. Can't you tell? I'll bet you can. And which would you buy? So maybe there isn't a conflict. 

One of the useful pieces of advice that I got in art school was to do what you do and find a market for it rather than chase the market, which will always put you behind the curve.

Tania, if a series is what grabs you. Do it! If it was good enough for Monet.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate dealing in either/or. Let&#8217;s face it. Most of us have far more ideas for paintings than we&#8217;ll ever have time to paint. So I try to strike a balance. Sometimes, all other things being equal, I&#8217;ll pick a subject that I know there is more of a market for and, other times, I just do what I feel driven to do.</p>
<p>In the end, buyers sense which ones were painted for the market and which ones were painted from the heart. Can&#8217;t you tell? I&#8217;ll bet you can. And which would you buy? So maybe there isn&#8217;t a conflict. </p>
<p>One of the useful pieces of advice that I got in art school was to do what you do and find a market for it rather than chase the market, which will always put you behind the curve.</p>
<p>Tania, if a series is what grabs you. Do it! If it was good enough for Monet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Tania</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/10/31/painting-for-sale-vs-self/#comment-1413</link>
		<dc:creator>Tania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something I'm struggling with right now. Up to this point I've been creating "one of's". You know: one of a lion, one of a tiger, one of a - whatever. But in the new year I'd like to start work on a series with which to approach a gallery. I have several ideas, and admit that in addition to "self" "sales" is one of the criteria I'm using to whittle down my list. 
Part of me feels odd using money, or more accurately, my guess at what might earn money to help determine what I will work on for the next year, however, I have to be realistic here: art materials cost money and that money has to come from somewhere. And one day I'd love to do this full time.
I definitely understand the increase of energy you describe from selling your work: someone loves/enjoys/wants your art enough to spend their hard-earned money to take it home with them. It validates what we do... and it makes us want to do it all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something I&#8217;m struggling with right now. Up to this point I&#8217;ve been creating &#8220;one of&#8217;s&#8221;. You know: one of a lion, one of a tiger, one of a - whatever. But in the new year I&#8217;d like to start work on a series with which to approach a gallery. I have several ideas, and admit that in addition to &#8220;self&#8221; &#8220;sales&#8221; is one of the criteria I&#8217;m using to whittle down my list.<br />
Part of me feels odd using money, or more accurately, my guess at what might earn money to help determine what I will work on for the next year, however, I have to be realistic here: art materials cost money and that money has to come from somewhere. And one day I&#8217;d love to do this full time.<br />
I definitely understand the increase of energy you describe from selling your work: someone loves/enjoys/wants your art enough to spend their hard-earned money to take it home with them. It validates what we do&#8230; and it makes us want to do it all over again.</p>
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