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	<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/</link>
	<description>Musings on the Nature of Art from An Artist in Nature</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I noodle with beads and making jewelry; woodboard cutouts that I paint; cut-paper things; drawing with silver ink on black paper…there’s a lot of creativity I love to do that’s not directly related to oil painting, but I think they all feed my creative soul. And they’re all play."

Have you tried Scrapbooking some of your photos from your workshops and travels?  I find this is a great way to feed my creative soul, get "juiced" again about a particular place or activity that I enjoyed and eventually want to apply to painting.  Plus, I can get a lot quicker results from this activity than I do when painting.  It is a new addiction that I find does help feed my creative soul.  Plus, I can enjoy this with my daughter, sister, sister-in-law, and niece....all whom say they aren't artistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I noodle with beads and making jewelry; woodboard cutouts that I paint; cut-paper things; drawing with silver ink on black paper…there’s a lot of creativity I love to do that’s not directly related to oil painting, but I think they all feed my creative soul. And they’re all play.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you tried Scrapbooking some of your photos from your workshops and travels?  I find this is a great way to feed my creative soul, get &#8220;juiced&#8221; again about a particular place or activity that I enjoyed and eventually want to apply to painting.  Plus, I can get a lot quicker results from this activity than I do when painting.  It is a new addiction that I find does help feed my creative soul.  Plus, I can enjoy this with my daughter, sister, sister-in-law, and niece&#8230;.all whom say they aren&#8217;t artistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-446</guid>
		<description>Oh for pity's sake, you guys are over the top there. Leaving that aside...Don, what an interesting note on field studies vs. finished work! I have a little thin book of some of Clyde Aspevig's landscapes (published quite a while ago) that has many field studies along with the larger studio renditions. Your comment makes me realize why I often prefer the work an artist does in the field. And those are fine finished products in their own right, too!

On the play aspect: an artist is a creative person, regardless of medium. I noodle with beads and making jewelry; woodboard cutouts that I paint; cut-paper things; drawing with silver ink on black paper...there's a lot of creativity I love to do that's not directly related to oil painting, but I think they all feed my creative soul. And they're all play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for pity&#8217;s sake, you guys are over the top there. Leaving that aside&#8230;Don, what an interesting note on field studies vs. finished work! I have a little thin book of some of Clyde Aspevig&#8217;s landscapes (published quite a while ago) that has many field studies along with the larger studio renditions. Your comment makes me realize why I often prefer the work an artist does in the field. And those are fine finished products in their own right, too!</p>
<p>On the play aspect: an artist is a creative person, regardless of medium. I noodle with beads and making jewelry; woodboard cutouts that I paint; cut-paper things; drawing with silver ink on black paper&#8230;there&#8217;s a lot of creativity I love to do that&#8217;s not directly related to oil painting, but I think they all feed my creative soul. And they&#8217;re all play.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Barnes</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-434</guid>
		<description>"then you’ll be able to do work just….like…..Julie"

Sa-weet!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;then you’ll be able to do work just….like…..Julie&#8221;</p>
<p>Sa-weet!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-429</guid>
		<description>No, I think it's a habit that one has to form just like anything else. If you can remember to do it a few times and ignore the possible awkward feeling, it gets easier and more enjoyable and then you'll be able to do work just....like.....Julie ;-)

You might try different types of paper and pens/pencils. I find for quick sketches that I prefer whatever liquid gel pens Staples currently has. I've been working with the Wolff's Carbons, but  I prefer them and charcoal pencils for more finished drawings.

One of the things they told us in art school (Illustration) was to always save something for the finish. If I do a quick study and find later on that there is something about it that is driving me crazy, then I guess that means that there is something left for the finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I think it&#8217;s a habit that one has to form just like anything else. If you can remember to do it a few times and ignore the possible awkward feeling, it gets easier and more enjoyable and then you&#8217;ll be able to do work just&#8230;.like&#8230;..Julie <img src='http://julietchapman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You might try different types of paper and pens/pencils. I find for quick sketches that I prefer whatever liquid gel pens Staples currently has. I&#8217;ve been working with the Wolff&#8217;s Carbons, but  I prefer them and charcoal pencils for more finished drawings.</p>
<p>One of the things they told us in art school (Illustration) was to always save something for the finish. If I do a quick study and find later on that there is something about it that is driving me crazy, then I guess that means that there is something left for the finish.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Barnes</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-426</guid>
		<description>I have to admit that I pressure myself far too often. Most of the time it winds up in frustration. This usually happens when I'm in the studio. Out in the field I find it a lot easier to just turn into Chicken Joe and relax with it. That doesnt mean I get better results, but I dont seem to mind as much. 

I agree with you both that the enjoyment of the process comes across in the piece. John Stobart points to the difference between Constable's field studies and his finished work. He also says that he tries not to expend too much energy on the field work, so that the creativity is still there for the studio. Maybe that's part of my problem. I just pour myself into the field work and then rarely get the desired result in the studio.

Having said all that, I need to say that following this blog has put me into a mindset to draw more. I work in a beautiful area, surrounded by mountains, trees.....and geese...lots of geese. (Watch your step.) There are lots of opportunities when I could sit with a sketchbook and pencil and spend my lunch just drawing. Am I just lazy or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I pressure myself far too often. Most of the time it winds up in frustration. This usually happens when I&#8217;m in the studio. Out in the field I find it a lot easier to just turn into Chicken Joe and relax with it. That doesnt mean I get better results, but I dont seem to mind as much. </p>
<p>I agree with you both that the enjoyment of the process comes across in the piece. John Stobart points to the difference between Constable&#8217;s field studies and his finished work. He also says that he tries not to expend too much energy on the field work, so that the creativity is still there for the studio. Maybe that&#8217;s part of my problem. I just pour myself into the field work and then rarely get the desired result in the studio.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I need to say that following this blog has put me into a mindset to draw more. I work in a beautiful area, surrounded by mountains, trees&#8230;..and geese&#8230;lots of geese. (Watch your step.) There are lots of opportunities when I could sit with a sketchbook and pencil and spend my lunch just drawing. Am I just lazy or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-425</guid>
		<description>The background has a lot of light, rich yummy grass along the top which should pop out the shadowed back of the bobcat. The water still needs the those browny-greens, warm light greens and what John Seerey-Lester calls Disney sparkles. The only part that is "done" at the moment is the head, which will be the area of highest contrast with the dark, shaded water and grass behind it. I also plan to punch up the the level of detail, value contrast and temperature shifts in the logs nearest the cat. 

I've got a bighorn painting that's on the plate for this morning and might get back to the bobcat this afternoon, certainly tomorrow. Got a local group show next month that I want both pieces for. Shawn Gould, Linda Parkinson, Paula Golightly and John Wesa and I. We did it last year and decided to keep going, so it's called Wild Visions 2.

I took the bighorn about a 1/3 done in to my framer yesterday since it is a 20"x30" with two 20"x8" side panels, which will require custom work for the small connecting vertical pieces. How's that for putting pressure on myself to turn out a good one? Don't know that this will keep the "play" in the work, but it certainly has focused my attention :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The background has a lot of light, rich yummy grass along the top which should pop out the shadowed back of the bobcat. The water still needs the those browny-greens, warm light greens and what John Seerey-Lester calls Disney sparkles. The only part that is &#8220;done&#8221; at the moment is the head, which will be the area of highest contrast with the dark, shaded water and grass behind it. I also plan to punch up the the level of detail, value contrast and temperature shifts in the logs nearest the cat. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a bighorn painting that&#8217;s on the plate for this morning and might get back to the bobcat this afternoon, certainly tomorrow. Got a local group show next month that I want both pieces for. Shawn Gould, Linda Parkinson, Paula Golightly and John Wesa and I. We did it last year and decided to keep going, so it&#8217;s called Wild Visions 2.</p>
<p>I took the bighorn about a 1/3 done in to my framer yesterday since it is a 20&#8243;x30&#8243; with two 20&#8243;x8&#8243; side panels, which will require custom work for the small connecting vertical pieces. How&#8217;s that for putting pressure on myself to turn out a good one? Don&#8217;t know that this will keep the &#8220;play&#8221; in the work, but it certainly has focused my attention :-).</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-424</guid>
		<description>Susan - the in-progress looks good. What do you still plan to do on it? it's very 'ethereal' right now - the soft hues and lack of strong contrast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan - the in-progress looks good. What do you still plan to do on it? it&#8217;s very &#8216;ethereal&#8217; right now - the soft hues and lack of strong contrast.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/07/09/process-vs-product/#comment-420</guid>
		<description>Enjoyment of the process shows up in the final "product", I think. People who see our work know, at some level, whether we put our heart into it or were going through the motions. How many shows have we been to that had some really good paintings and some where it looked like the artist just phoned it in in order to have enough work.

I endeavor to always ignore that little voice that says "You should paint an "x" and to say to myself instead, "What do I want to paint today?" and then trust that at some point someone will want to buy it. Chasing the market is fatal to good, individual work.

I'm also having a blast seeing what I can do with the round brushes I mostly use these days. I'm trying to always think "drawing", along with value, structure and all that other stuff, because I love to draw and want that to be a part of every painting.

Posted an in-progress of a bobcat who should look familiar to you. I'm having LOTS of fun trying to capture that morning light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyment of the process shows up in the final &#8220;product&#8221;, I think. People who see our work know, at some level, whether we put our heart into it or were going through the motions. How many shows have we been to that had some really good paintings and some where it looked like the artist just phoned it in in order to have enough work.</p>
<p>I endeavor to always ignore that little voice that says &#8220;You should paint an &#8220;x&#8221; and to say to myself instead, &#8220;What do I want to paint today?&#8221; and then trust that at some point someone will want to buy it. Chasing the market is fatal to good, individual work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also having a blast seeing what I can do with the round brushes I mostly use these days. I&#8217;m trying to always think &#8220;drawing&#8221;, along with value, structure and all that other stuff, because I love to draw and want that to be a part of every painting.</p>
<p>Posted an in-progress of a bobcat who should look familiar to you. I&#8217;m having LOTS of fun trying to capture that morning light!</p>
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