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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Wildlife art&#8221;: endangered?</title>
	<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/</link>
	<description>Musings on the Nature of Art from An Artist in Nature</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carole Williams</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the definition of "figurative", it means "representing by means of a figure or likeness, as in drawing or sculpture.  Another definitions says "humans or things".  I would think that wildlife art would fit into both the figurative  and landscape category.  Just try it though......Ha.

As with everything else, if enough people wrote and complained to OPA perhaps they would change it, especially since a lot of their artists belong in the wildlife category.  Seems strange to me that events such as the Southeast Wildlife Festival held each year in Charleston, SC draws more artists and people than any other art event I know of.  Wildlife art has always been at the bottom of the list in almost all museums, galleries and shows, yet wildlife art and western art are huge sellers, bringing in mega dollars to the overall art sales each year.  

Wildlife Art Magazine was a wonderful publication.  I don't know what went wrong there.  What bothers me is that their website is still up and says nothing about it no longer publishing. plus, it still allows you to subscribe.  This means that if you pay for your subscription online or by mail your money is gone forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the definition of &#8220;figurative&#8221;, it means &#8220;representing by means of a figure or likeness, as in drawing or sculpture.  Another definitions says &#8220;humans or things&#8221;.  I would think that wildlife art would fit into both the figurative  and landscape category.  Just try it though&#8230;&#8230;Ha.</p>
<p>As with everything else, if enough people wrote and complained to OPA perhaps they would change it, especially since a lot of their artists belong in the wildlife category.  Seems strange to me that events such as the Southeast Wildlife Festival held each year in Charleston, SC draws more artists and people than any other art event I know of.  Wildlife art has always been at the bottom of the list in almost all museums, galleries and shows, yet wildlife art and western art are huge sellers, bringing in mega dollars to the overall art sales each year.  </p>
<p>Wildlife Art Magazine was a wonderful publication.  I don&#8217;t know what went wrong there.  What bothers me is that their website is still up and says nothing about it no longer publishing. plus, it still allows you to subscribe.  This means that if you pay for your subscription online or by mail your money is gone forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Bach</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-541</guid>
		<description>Being an artist of wildlife I was dissheartened to find that art snobs are in abundance, very competitive and jealous.(But not all!)   Wild life art is a wonder to behold.  How else can an average citizen observer be nose to nose with a charging bull elephant and feel that artful interpretation.  Some of mine have ended up under landscapes because I usually create a scene of their habitat.  I do think wild life should have its own catagory.
  I also was subscribing to Wildlife Art Magazine and just paid a renewal!  Has anyone heard of how to get refunds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an artist of wildlife I was dissheartened to find that art snobs are in abundance, very competitive and jealous.(But not all!)   Wild life art is a wonder to behold.  How else can an average citizen observer be nose to nose with a charging bull elephant and feel that artful interpretation.  Some of mine have ended up under landscapes because I usually create a scene of their habitat.  I do think wild life should have its own catagory.<br />
  I also was subscribing to Wildlife Art Magazine and just paid a renewal!  Has anyone heard of how to get refunds?</p>
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		<title>By: larry jewett</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>larry jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-320</guid>
		<description>"I believe some people look down on it [wildlife art] as little more than illustration."

Again, it's kind of humorous that one of the greatest American wildlife artists Bob Kuhn -- spent most of his career as "just an illustrator."

There seems to be a lot of snobbishness in the art world. People like to believe that their art is the only "true art". One artist friend of mine actually frowned on the fact that I was painting with acrylics.   It's a bunch of nonsense.  When it comes right down to it, ART is pretty much ALL subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe some people look down on it [wildlife art] as little more than illustration.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s kind of humorous that one of the greatest American wildlife artists Bob Kuhn &#8212; spent most of his career as &#8220;just an illustrator.&#8221;</p>
<p>There seems to be a lot of snobbishness in the art world. People like to believe that their art is the only &#8220;true art&#8221;. One artist friend of mine actually frowned on the fact that I was painting with acrylics.   It&#8217;s a bunch of nonsense.  When it comes right down to it, ART is pretty much ALL subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry jewett</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-319</guid>
		<description>"I find the 3 OPA categories obnoxiously anthropocentric."

I think simply "obnoxious" would have covered it pretty well.

One of the things that I find amusing (in an obnoxious sort of way) about the art world is that it is largely the people who do not do the art themselves who are the ones who decide what is -- and what is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; -- art.

Perhaps artists need to unionize or something because it just seems absurd to me that those who could not paint (or even recognize) a prickly pear if their life depended on it are deciding whether a painting of a grizzly bear (or any other subject) is any good.

I realize the practicalities of the whole thing: the gallery's and art dealers control all the money. But still, especially with the internet, there must be a way of changing that.

BTW, Julie. How do you get your dog to run those gates like that? do you have to show her how to do it? Must be exhausting training dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find the 3 OPA categories obnoxiously anthropocentric.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think simply &#8220;obnoxious&#8221; would have covered it pretty well.</p>
<p>One of the things that I find amusing (in an obnoxious sort of way) about the art world is that it is largely the people who do not do the art themselves who are the ones who decide what is &#8212; and what is <i>not</i> &#8212; art.</p>
<p>Perhaps artists need to unionize or something because it just seems absurd to me that those who could not paint (or even recognize) a prickly pear if their life depended on it are deciding whether a painting of a grizzly bear (or any other subject) is any good.</p>
<p>I realize the practicalities of the whole thing: the gallery&#8217;s and art dealers control all the money. But still, especially with the internet, there must be a way of changing that.</p>
<p>BTW, Julie. How do you get your dog to run those gates like that? do you have to show her how to do it? Must be exhausting training dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Ellis</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-317</guid>
		<description>Julie, I found you and your wonderful workshop through Wildlife Art Magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I found you and your wonderful workshop through Wildlife Art Magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: KAY MILLER</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>KAY MILLER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-316</guid>
		<description>GREAT WORK, LOVE YOUR DOG SHOWS, I AM AN ANIMAL LOVER TOO. FOR SOME REASON MY COMPUTOR STARTS AND PAUSES  ON THE VIDEOS.  I M SURE I COULD FIX IT IF I KNEW WHAT TO DO. HA  I WILL MISS THE WILDLIFE ART MAGAZINE ALSO. I COULD TELL IT WAS LOSING GROUND. KM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT WORK, LOVE YOUR DOG SHOWS, I AM AN ANIMAL LOVER TOO. FOR SOME REASON MY COMPUTOR STARTS AND PAUSES  ON THE VIDEOS.  I M SURE I COULD FIX IT IF I KNEW WHAT TO DO. HA  I WILL MISS THE WILDLIFE ART MAGAZINE ALSO. I COULD TELL IT WAS LOSING GROUND. KM</p>
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		<title>By: Barb Ekx</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb Ekx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-312</guid>
		<description>Julie:
 As always I look forward to your monthly newsletter. I was saddened to read of the demise of the Wildlife Art magazine . It was the first magazine I purchased each time a  new addition was out.  Where will those of us go that love painting animal's ,enjoying  and learning  from and of others like us  out there in this world of Art? Isn't a rose still a rose even if it is a climber or a hybrid tea rose ?  How and Who  now decides  what classification, we are as painters of Wildlife and Animal art are to be categorized as?? Could be a landscape? could be a portrait?? could be what??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie:<br />
 As always I look forward to your monthly newsletter. I was saddened to read of the demise of the Wildlife Art magazine . It was the first magazine I purchased each time a  new addition was out.  Where will those of us go that love painting animal&#8217;s ,enjoying  and learning  from and of others like us  out there in this world of Art? Isn&#8217;t a rose still a rose even if it is a climber or a hybrid tea rose ?  How and Who  now decides  what classification, we are as painters of Wildlife and Animal art are to be categorized as?? Could be a landscape? could be a portrait?? could be what??</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-311</guid>
		<description>I'm going to second Don, and Carl Rungius: art should be ART, regardless of subject matter. I also believe there has been no lessening of demand for wildlife- and animal-related imagery in the print and licensing market.

That said, it does peeve me that the OPA national competition only has categories for figurative, landscape, or still life...as if the other 99% of living beings in this world aren't worthy of being painted. Considering that humankind's very first artistic interpretations were of animals, and that we're not the only ones on this planet, I find the 3 OPA categories obnoxiously anthropocentric.

One of my gallery dealers responded to the Artzine by suggesting that landscape and animal art should be lumped together into one category of NATURE ART.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to second Don, and Carl Rungius: art should be ART, regardless of subject matter. I also believe there has been no lessening of demand for wildlife- and animal-related imagery in the print and licensing market.</p>
<p>That said, it does peeve me that the OPA national competition only has categories for figurative, landscape, or still life&#8230;as if the other 99% of living beings in this world aren&#8217;t worthy of being painted. Considering that humankind&#8217;s very first artistic interpretations were of animals, and that we&#8217;re not the only ones on this planet, I find the 3 OPA categories obnoxiously anthropocentric.</p>
<p>One of my gallery dealers responded to the Artzine by suggesting that landscape and animal art should be lumped together into one category of NATURE ART.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Barnes</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-309</guid>
		<description>I wrote a four paragraph note here and realized that it was just words. What I think this comes down to is subjectivity. To the person creating art, categories probably dont matter. Art is art, in all its forms. To the person walking through a gallery who is stunned by that magnificent piece, categories dont matter because they just have to have that thing right there. To collectors, critics and marketers, categories are essential because they are brushes, knives and chisels in the art of selling art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a four paragraph note here and realized that it was just words. What I think this comes down to is subjectivity. To the person creating art, categories probably dont matter. Art is art, in all its forms. To the person walking through a gallery who is stunned by that magnificent piece, categories dont matter because they just have to have that thing right there. To collectors, critics and marketers, categories are essential because they are brushes, knives and chisels in the art of selling art.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/06/02/wildlife-art-endangered/#comment-308</guid>
		<description>WOW!!!  I'm shocked that "Wildlife Art" magazine is closing.  I'm also saddened by the news.  That was my favorite magazine.  I love wildlife and I love painting it.  Maybe it's just that everyone is cutting back because of gas prices etc. that the magazine had to close.  I can't imagine that people are tired of wildlife.  Dvd's on wildlife are sell outs up here in Alaska and people love our wildlife booths at the fairs, bazaars and festivals up here.
   I definitely think that catagories are needed.  I've always wished that there was a specific catagory for birds as well.  Judges basicly make their decisions on their favorites,  even if they say that they use a form with required elements that must be in the painting.  
   Well, we'll just keep painting wildlife and eventually make history.  Whimsical art doesn't make history and doesn't help anything.  So keep painting the beauty of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!!  I&#8217;m shocked that &#8220;Wildlife Art&#8221; magazine is closing.  I&#8217;m also saddened by the news.  That was my favorite magazine.  I love wildlife and I love painting it.  Maybe it&#8217;s just that everyone is cutting back because of gas prices etc. that the magazine had to close.  I can&#8217;t imagine that people are tired of wildlife.  Dvd&#8217;s on wildlife are sell outs up here in Alaska and people love our wildlife booths at the fairs, bazaars and festivals up here.<br />
   I definitely think that catagories are needed.  I&#8217;ve always wished that there was a specific catagory for birds as well.  Judges basicly make their decisions on their favorites,  even if they say that they use a form with required elements that must be in the painting.<br />
   Well, we&#8217;ll just keep painting wildlife and eventually make history.  Whimsical art doesn&#8217;t make history and doesn&#8217;t help anything.  So keep painting the beauty of the world.</p>
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