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	<title>Comments on: The Compleat Idiot&#8217;s Guide to Art Shows</title>
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		<title>By: Donna Yde</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-5199</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Yde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe after all this time I find someone that can put in words what Ive been feeling for more then 40 years!!! In the late 60s and early 70s I just did a lot of small time art shows , that I did alright at but wanted to go BIG TIME. So I tried to get into one of the larger Wildlife shows at the time, and  was told I needed to have more to my resume!! I went to the show and talked to alot of the artists and I had one lady tell  me how hard it was for a female to get into a 90% male show ' she suggested that I put D. L. Yde on my paintings so my gendre would not draw attention. So my way of getting around the problem was to open up my own gallery,(over time of own  4 and done quite well for myself  and for some other artist also. I am diffently not good with words like you are, you hit the nail on the head Thank You it did my heart good to read that there are a lot of us out there that have gotten this teatment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe after all this time I find someone that can put in words what Ive been feeling for more then 40 years!!! In the late 60s and early 70s I just did a lot of small time art shows , that I did alright at but wanted to go BIG TIME. So I tried to get into one of the larger Wildlife shows at the time, and  was told I needed to have more to my resume!! I went to the show and talked to alot of the artists and I had one lady tell  me how hard it was for a female to get into a 90% male show &#8216; she suggested that I put D. L. Yde on my paintings so my gendre would not draw attention. So my way of getting around the problem was to open up my own gallery,(over time of own  4 and done quite well for myself  and for some other artist also. I am diffently not good with words like you are, you hit the nail on the head Thank You it did my heart good to read that there are a lot of us out there that have gotten this teatment</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne Todd</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-57</guid>
		<description>I just found your blog though I have been getting your newsletters for some time. Not only is it entertaining but also very informative - a great combination. Too bad there aren't 48 hours in a day as you write as well as you paint!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found your blog though I have been getting your newsletters for some time. Not only is it entertaining but also very informative - a great combination. Too bad there aren&#8217;t 48 hours in a day as you write as well as you paint!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-46</guid>
		<description>Larry, my highly unscientific and qualitative experience suggests competition is no less stiff with miniatures shows; yes, the venues can hang more artists - but there are an awful lot of really good artists out there. For me, miniatures are harder to do really well; more has to be suggested, less painted, and I can't get real ambitious about the what I put in the piece. Every now and then I do one I really really like, but my batting average is lower on the miniatures.

Kim, thank you for the kind and enthusiastic comments! feedback like this keeps me going. Taking classes and reading The Artist's Magazine are super ways to develop yourself as an artist - along with making hundreds of drawings and paintings. I also happen to be a booklover, and I must have several hundred books just about art. I'll have to do a blog post sometime describing the categories of art books I own, and highlighting some favorites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, my highly unscientific and qualitative experience suggests competition is no less stiff with miniatures shows; yes, the venues can hang more artists - but there are an awful lot of really good artists out there. For me, miniatures are harder to do really well; more has to be suggested, less painted, and I can&#8217;t get real ambitious about the what I put in the piece. Every now and then I do one I really really like, but my batting average is lower on the miniatures.</p>
<p>Kim, thank you for the kind and enthusiastic comments! feedback like this keeps me going. Taking classes and reading The Artist&#8217;s Magazine are super ways to develop yourself as an artist - along with making hundreds of drawings and paintings. I also happen to be a booklover, and I must have several hundred books just about art. I&#8217;ll have to do a blog post sometime describing the categories of art books I own, and highlighting some favorites.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-45</guid>
		<description>Julie, I'm so glad that I came across your website! You are so funny and entertaining to read in your newsletters and here and I love your artwork.
I'm only just taking classes so I'm nowhere near entering any shows but I have learned alot just from reading what you write. I subscribe to the Artist's Magazine and I'm sure I just read recently exactly what you said about how they judge their contests also.
Thanks again for all that you have unknowingly taught me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I&#8217;m so glad that I came across your website! You are so funny and entertaining to read in your newsletters and here and I love your artwork.<br />
I&#8217;m only just taking classes so I&#8217;m nowhere near entering any shows but I have learned alot just from reading what you write. I subscribe to the Artist&#8217;s Magazine and I&#8217;m sure I just read recently exactly what you said about how they judge their contests also.<br />
Thanks again for all that you have unknowingly taught me!</p>
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		<title>By: larry jewett</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>larry jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-32</guid>
		<description>Thanks a lot for the suggestions. This is the kind of stuff you can't get from a book. maybe you should write one in your "spare" time.

By the way, in your opinion, is the competition less stiff with the miniatures?

I've looked at some of the old mini entries in art for the parks and it seems like, on average, the minis were not on the same level as the regular size ones. The best minis are probably at the ssame level as the best regular sized ones, but the "average" quality seems to be lower and there seems to be more "scatter" about the average.

I realize part of that is simply due to the fact that it is hard to paint small pictures (God knows, it's hard enough to paint those cat whiskers on the big ones!)

Then again, it may just be perception on my part, and i lay no claim to being expert judge by any means.

And "averaging" paintings as I do may be a wee bit unorthodox (I have a background in science/engineering), but perhaps there is something more to this? -- More than just that "they have more room because the paintings are smaller "</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for the suggestions. This is the kind of stuff you can&#8217;t get from a book. maybe you should write one in your &#8220;spare&#8221; time.</p>
<p>By the way, in your opinion, is the competition less stiff with the miniatures?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at some of the old mini entries in art for the parks and it seems like, on average, the minis were not on the same level as the regular size ones. The best minis are probably at the ssame level as the best regular sized ones, but the &#8220;average&#8221; quality seems to be lower and there seems to be more &#8220;scatter&#8221; about the average.</p>
<p>I realize part of that is simply due to the fact that it is hard to paint small pictures (God knows, it&#8217;s hard enough to paint those cat whiskers on the big ones!)</p>
<p>Then again, it may just be perception on my part, and i lay no claim to being expert judge by any means.</p>
<p>And &#8220;averaging&#8221; paintings as I do may be a wee bit unorthodox (I have a background in science/engineering), but perhaps there is something more to this? &#8212; More than just that &#8220;they have more room because the paintings are smaller &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-30</guid>
		<description>Hmmm....the list of shows I try to enter each year is fairly short - good juried shows (eg, Birds in Art, CM Russell) and some invitationals that seem a little more open (eg,  last year was the first time I was included in the Gilcrease American Art in Miniature show). Miniatures shows might be good places to try for being invited - they have room to include more artists due to the small size of the works.

Don't overlook your local and regional shows. Long before I became more serious about my art career  - eg, entering Arts for the Parks - I placed pieces in local fairs and did numerous horse and dog commissions. One of my favorite venues back then was the Harvest Fair - Sonoma County's October fair celebrating the wine harvest. It had an art show associated with it which was small time and wildly variable in quality (think Aunt Martha's watercolors of flowers), but ribbons were awarded and my paintings in the fair always sold...if I think about it, the success there had to do with the types of folks visiting the Harvest Fair: Bay Area wine-lovers, which typically have reasonable discretionary income to spend on something like art.

Get on the mailing list for your state arts council, as their newsletters will usually include notices of state and regional art shows. And there's always ArtCalendar, another very good resource for gazillions of art shows - far beyond the few western representational things we've been talking about. There are loads of venues out there! ArtCalendar is helpful in that they refuse listings for shows which have engaged in shady dealings in the past (and they'll note this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.the list of shows I try to enter each year is fairly short - good juried shows (eg, Birds in Art, CM Russell) and some invitationals that seem a little more open (eg,  last year was the first time I was included in the Gilcrease American Art in Miniature show). Miniatures shows might be good places to try for being invited - they have room to include more artists due to the small size of the works.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t overlook your local and regional shows. Long before I became more serious about my art career  - eg, entering Arts for the Parks - I placed pieces in local fairs and did numerous horse and dog commissions. One of my favorite venues back then was the Harvest Fair - Sonoma County&#8217;s October fair celebrating the wine harvest. It had an art show associated with it which was small time and wildly variable in quality (think Aunt Martha&#8217;s watercolors of flowers), but ribbons were awarded and my paintings in the fair always sold&#8230;if I think about it, the success there had to do with the types of folks visiting the Harvest Fair: Bay Area wine-lovers, which typically have reasonable discretionary income to spend on something like art.</p>
<p>Get on the mailing list for your state arts council, as their newsletters will usually include notices of state and regional art shows. And there&#8217;s always ArtCalendar, another very good resource for gazillions of art shows - far beyond the few western representational things we&#8217;ve been talking about. There are loads of venues out there! ArtCalendar is helpful in that they refuse listings for shows which have engaged in shady dealings in the past (and they&#8217;ll note this).</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Jewett</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-29</guid>
		<description>I like this blog a lot already. Lots of art world secrets (ie, dirty laundry) and other useful information coming out.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
With respect to sexism in the art world, I’ve mostly found it in shows which are:
(a) invitational, and
&lt;b&gt;(b) your traditional western representational exhibitions&lt;/b&gt;

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Hmm.  wonder why that is. :)

Forgive me for being forward, but would it be safe to assume that the "Prix de West" contest is foremost on your mind? (sponsored as it is by the National Cow&lt;i&gt;boy&lt;/i&gt; Museum)

You don't need to answer that if you don't want to (which will give me the answer, at any rate)

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 I was surprised to find that the [Artist’s ] magazine staff ‘pre-juries’ entries and narrows down the hundreds(?) of category entries to just 50 or so finalists that are sent to the actual category judge
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks. You just saved me some money. I was thinking about maybe trying that one in the future.

Any others that nobodies like me should stay away from? 

Perhaps I should rephrase that (the list might be a lot shorter):

Any contests that nobody's like me should &lt;i&gt;bother&lt;/i&gt; entering? 

You mentioned "Paint America" at one point. Any others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this blog a lot already. Lots of art world secrets (ie, dirty laundry) and other useful information coming out.</p>
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With respect to sexism in the art world, I’ve mostly found it in shows which are:<br />
(a) invitational, and<br />
<b>(b) your traditional western representational exhibitions</b></p>
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Hmm.  wonder why that is. <img src='http://julietchapman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Forgive me for being forward, but would it be safe to assume that the &#8220;Prix de West&#8221; contest is foremost on your mind? (sponsored as it is by the National Cow<i>boy</i> Museum)</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to answer that if you don&#8217;t want to (which will give me the answer, at any rate)</p>
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 I was surprised to find that the [Artist’s ] magazine staff ‘pre-juries’ entries and narrows down the hundreds(?) of category entries to just 50 or so finalists that are sent to the actual category judge
</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks. You just saved me some money. I was thinking about maybe trying that one in the future.</p>
<p>Any others that nobodies like me should stay away from? </p>
<p>Perhaps I should rephrase that (the list might be a lot shorter):</p>
<p>Any contests that nobody&#8217;s like me should <i>bother</i> entering? </p>
<p>You mentioned &#8220;Paint America&#8221; at one point. Any others?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diana - you're welcome (for the serotonin) :-) - I'll try to make sure some of that appears here regularly! And you were one of MY inspirations with respect to starting a blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana - you&#8217;re welcome (for the serotonin) <img src='http://julietchapman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> - I&#8217;ll try to make sure some of that appears here regularly! And you were one of MY inspirations with respect to starting a blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Chapman</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-27</guid>
		<description>With respect to sexism in the art world, I've mostly found it in shows which are:
(a) invitational, and
(b) your traditional western representational exhibitions
...this assessment is based on totting up the gender ratios in such shows (and various personal experiences). I believe most juried shows are much more fair. It's the big western art invitationals that seem to exhibit the bias.

And I should also disclose, in reference to other comments about judging and subjectivity, that I once juried the Animal Art category of The Artist's Magazine's annual competition. I was surprised to find that the magazine staff 'pre-juries' entries and narrows down the hundreds(?) of category entries to just 50 or so finalists that are sent to the actual category judge. I would have preferred to jury all of them myself, and since I now know how this competition operates - and that the category judge doesn't actually see most of the work submitted - I no longer enter it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to sexism in the art world, I&#8217;ve mostly found it in shows which are:<br />
(a) invitational, and<br />
(b) your traditional western representational exhibitions<br />
&#8230;this assessment is based on totting up the gender ratios in such shows (and various personal experiences). I believe most juried shows are much more fair. It&#8217;s the big western art invitationals that seem to exhibit the bias.</p>
<p>And I should also disclose, in reference to other comments about judging and subjectivity, that I once juried the Animal Art category of The Artist&#8217;s Magazine&#8217;s annual competition. I was surprised to find that the magazine staff &#8216;pre-juries&#8217; entries and narrows down the hundreds(?) of category entries to just 50 or so finalists that are sent to the actual category judge. I would have preferred to jury all of them myself, and since I now know how this competition operates - and that the category judge doesn&#8217;t actually see most of the work submitted - I no longer enter it.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Moses Botkin</title>
		<link>http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/03/02/the-compleat-idiots-guide-to-art-shows/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Moses Botkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the serotonin, Julie! You've been blessed with plenty of talent and wit. It's been such a joy to see your hard work pay off with recognition and prestigious gallery exposure. As an artist it gives me inspiration and hope! Blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the serotonin, Julie! You&#8217;ve been blessed with plenty of talent and wit. It&#8217;s been such a joy to see your hard work pay off with recognition and prestigious gallery exposure. As an artist it gives me inspiration and hope! Blessings.</p>
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